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Traveller-digest     Saturday, January 1 2000     Volume 1999 : Number 1616<BR>
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The following topics are covered in this digest:<BR>
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Re: Happy New Year!<BR>
Re: Happy New Year<BR>
Re: Happy New Year<BR>
Re: Happy New Year! <BR>
"Starflight" and "Starflight 2: Trade Routes of the Cloud Nebula"<BR>
Re: Happy New Year<BR>
Happy New Year!<BR>
THUDDD in the 3rd millinium<BR>
Re: Megacorps<BR>
Re: Goverment Overkill<BR>
Re: Art and attraction<BR>
Re: Old laws/weird legal systems<BR>
All Those GURPS Tech Wonders<BR>
Re: Common Law<BR>
Re: Happy New Year!<BR>
Re: Happy New Year!<BR>
The Steve Jackson Games New Year Message<BR>
Re: Happy New Year!<BR>
Re: Happy New Year!<BR>
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Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 14:44:23 +1100<BR>
From: "Jim & Peta Lawrie" <jimpeta@primus.com.au><BR>
Subject: Re: Happy New Year!<BR>
<BR>
- -----Original Message-----<BR>
From: Chris Seamans <semo@pil.net><BR>
To: traveller@lists.imagiconline.com <traveller@lists.imagiconline.com><BR>
Date: Saturday, 1 January 2000 12:54<BR>
Subject: Happy New Year!<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
>Happy -2518, and remember, while the Imperium is cool and all, the Solomani<BR>
>have got *the Party*!<BR>
><BR>
>Some facts:<BR>
><BR>
>Just 58 more years until we have bases throughout the solar system, a mere<BR>
>87 years until we discover Jump Drive, and in 2096, we'll finally get a<BR>
>chance to kick some Vilani ass!<BR>
>Happy New Year!<BR>
<BR>
    Big improvement over last year, when the moon was blown out of orbit and<BR>
carried  the moon base into deep space.<BR>
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Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 03:46:24 -0000<BR>
From: "Nick Bradbeer" <nickb@ndirect.co.uk><BR>
Subject: Re: Happy New Year<BR>
<BR>
That's a point. I supose I should check out the Old One in the corner<BR>
(486SX-25). With it's '93 BIOS it could be interesting.<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
Mmmm.....when I go back to Durham I have to boot up Shoebox (an old 286<BR>
overdriven to 386 with BIOS from.....actually, I'm not sure she even has a<BR>
BIOS...I think she runs on voodoo.)<BR>
<BR>
NB<BR>
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Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 16:47:39 +1300<BR>
From: "Rupert Boleyn" <rboleyn@paradise.net.nz><BR>
Subject: Re: Happy New Year<BR>
<BR>
On 1 Jan 00, at 16:32, Rupert Boleyn wrote:<BR>
<BR>
> On 1 Jan 00, at 3:12, Nick Bradbeer wrote:<BR>
> <BR>
> > By now the New Year is mid-Atlantic, winging its way towards the<BR>
> > majority of you.<BR>
> > <BR>
> > I'd like to say 'Hi' from the other side, and welcome you all to the<BR>
> > year 2000. The streetlights are working, there's not a penguin in sight,<BR>
> > and even the old PC booted up fine.<BR>
> <BR>
> That's a point. I supose I should check out the Old One in the corner<BR>
> (486SX-25). With it's '93 BIOS it could be interesting.<BR>
<BR>
The Dinosaur worked! It claimed it's 4JAN1980, but when I corrected the <BR>
clock through Win95 and rebooted (I turned the power off, just to be <BR>
certain) it came up fine with the right date. That's saved a bit of a <BR>
hassle, anyway.<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
- --<BR>
Rupert Boleyn <paradise.net.nz><BR>
Wellington, New Zealand<BR>
<BR>
A pessimist is an optimist with a sense of history.<BR>
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Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 21:20:11 -0700<BR>
From: "Keven R. Pittsinger" <jamstar@ctaz.com><BR>
Subject: Re: Happy New Year! <BR>
<BR>
> >C'THULHU SAVES!  (In case He's hungry later....)<BR>
> <BR>
> <BR>
> "Collect Call Of Cthulu!<BR>
> <BR>
> Will you accept, sir?"<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
Ya *got* me, dood.<BR>
<BR>
Keven<BR>
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                                                     In Reavers' Deep<BR>
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Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 23:41:56 -0500<BR>
From: Jeff Zeitlin <jzeitlin@cyburban.com><BR>
Subject: "Starflight" and "Starflight 2: Trade Routes of the Cloud Nebula"<BR>
<BR>
Anyone remember these?  Anyone ever figure out a way to connect<BR>
them to Traveller?  Anyone want to contact me privately so I can<BR>
tell you some non-public things about them?<BR>
- --<BR>
Jeff Zeitlin<BR>
jzeitlin@cyburban.com<BR>
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Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 23:46:26 -0500<BR>
From: "Jory Earl" <j-man@iname.com><BR>
Subject: Re: Happy New Year<BR>
<BR>
286 upped to 386?  How, please tell!<BR>
___________________________________________________________<BR>
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- ----- Original Message -----<BR>
From: "Nick Bradbeer" <nickb@ndirect.co.uk><BR>
To: <traveller@lists.imagiconline.com><BR>
Sent: Friday, December 31, 1999 10:46 PM<BR>
Subject: Re: Happy New Year<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
> That's a point. I supose I should check out the Old One in the corner<BR>
> (486SX-25). With it's '93 BIOS it could be interesting.<BR>
><BR>
><BR>
><BR>
> Mmmm.....when I go back to Durham I have to boot up Shoebox (an old 286<BR>
> overdriven to 386 with BIOS from.....actually, I'm not sure she even has a<BR>
> BIOS...I think she runs on voodoo.)<BR>
><BR>
> NB<BR>
><BR>
><BR>
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Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2000 00:14:45 -0500<BR>
From: "David L. Pulver" <dlpulver@kos.net><BR>
Subject: Happy New Year!<BR>
<BR>
It looks like me and my trusty Model/1bis travelled into the first few<BR>
minutes of 2000 okay here in Kingston, n Ontario, Canada!  Here's wishing<BR>
everyone a happy new year and safe seasonal remnant!<BR>
<BR>
 _____________________________________________________________________<BR>
     David L. Pulver -- Senior Staff Writer and Assistant Line Editor,<BR>
		     Guardians Of Order Incorporated<BR>
 Big Eyes, Small Mouth * Sailor Moon * Dominion Tank Police * Tenchi Muyo! RPG<BR>
             dlpulver@kos.net  http://www.guardiansorder.on.ca<BR>
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Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 21:14:14 -0800<BR>
From: "Jason T. Barnabas" <cybernaut@netzero.net><BR>
Subject: THUDDD in the 3rd millinium<BR>
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Ok, so it's not really the 3rd millennium for another year; however, =<BR>
here's what we at THUDDD have planned for the year 2000.  Of course, by =<BR>
the time you read this it will be probably be the year 2000.<BR>
<BR>
Okay, enough confusion about the new millennium.  :-)<BR>
<BR>
While we are waiting on Black ICE to get the Commerce Raider together, =<BR>
we will go ahead and do the Modular Cutter for THUDDD 11.  THUDDD 12 =<BR>
will be the Commerce Raider and THUDDD 13 will be skipped.  I am still =<BR>
looking for an Assistant Coordinator for THUDDD 14.<BR>
<BR>
Confused?  So am I.  I really shouldn't write this stuff after starting =<BR>
the New Years Eve celebration (hey, at least this time, I didn't spell =<BR>
it with an 's').<BR>
<BR>
Okay, here's the spec's for THUDDD 11 (the official release date for =<BR>
this is 1/3/00, but what the heck):<BR>
<BR>
[From IN Press Release 0035-109-1009, Capital/Core]<BR>
      Lord Jonas Mac Finny, a representative of the Imperial Bureau of =<BR>
Transportation (IBoT), announced an IBoT initiative to upgrade current =<BR>
standards for small cargo transport, specifically a new standard for =<BR>
what is commonly referred to as a Modular Cutter. IBoT was prompted to =<BR>
announce this initiative by the constant complaints concerning the =<BR>
massive cost of current standard units.<BR>
      Lord Mac Finny provided spec's for the current standard units:<BR>
               Modular Cutter<BR>
            Tons 50<BR>
            Crew 2=20<BR>
            Cargo 15<BR>
            7 Size Rating<BR>
            0 Fire Control Rating=20<BR>
           Volume 700<BR>
            Passengers High/Medium 12<BR>
            Passengers Low 0<BR>
            Controls: Civilian Standard<BR>
            0 Jump Rating<BR>
            4 G Rating/Maneuver Drive<BR>
            4 Power Plant Rating<BR>
            13.5 Rating/Scoop/Refine<BR>
            0A 2P 0J Sensor Rating<BR>
            0 Armor  Cost: 28 MCr<BR>
             =20<BR>
            TL 9=20<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
            6 Structure=20<BR>
          =20<BR>
<BR>
               Modular Cutter: Using a 50-ton hull, the cutter is =<BR>
capable of 4G, carries 2 tons of fuel, and has a crew of two. It has 30 =<BR>
tons committed to special detachable modules; the craft has 2.t tons =<BR>
excess space available for weaponry or ancillary items.=20<BR>
<BR>
            Three interchangeable modules are routinely available for =<BR>
the modular cutter:<BR>
                  The ATV Module (which includes an operational ATV) is =<BR>
30 tons. It can land and retrieve an ATV on a world surface. The module =<BR>
can serve as an ATV storage location, if desired.<BR>
                  The fuel module, with 30 tons of fuel tankage, serves =<BR>
as a fuel skimming vehicle and storage tank.<BR>
                  The open module is a customizable frame with 30 tons =<BR>
of excess space, which can be allocated to passenger couches, fuel, =<BR>
cargo, cabin, or staterooms.<BR>
             =20<BR>
<BR>
    =20<BR>
      Indicating that the new standard should meet or exceed the current =<BR>
standard for less money. Preferably much less. Lord Mac Finny was quick =<BR>
to assure this reporter that the winning design firm would be given a =<BR>
contract to produce an initial run of 2 dozen Modular Cutter and would =<BR>
be able to expect annual contracts to produce hundreds more after the =<BR>
completion of trials.<BR>
<BR>
Due to concerns expressed by some, this competition will be closed to =<BR>
those who only design using GURPS.  We wouldn't want any of the THUDDD =<BR>
designs to influence anything produced for use in an actual Traveller =<BR>
source book, now would we?  ;-)<BR>
<BR>
All kidding aside, we wish the developers of the Modular Cutter Source =<BR>
Book all the best in the world.<BR>
<BR>
I'm looking forward to seeing those Non GURPS designs.<BR>
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Ok, so it's not really the 3rd millennium for another year; however, =<BR>
here's=20<BR>
what we at THUDDD have planned for the year 2000.&nbsp; Of course, by =<BR>
the time=20<BR>
you read this it will be probably be the year 2000.<BR>
<BR>
Okay, enough confusion about the new millennium.&nbsp; :-)<BR>
<BR>
While we are waiting on Black ICE to get the Commerce Raider =<BR>
together, we=20<BR>
will go ahead and do the Modular Cutter for THUDDD 11.&nbsp; THUDDD 12 =<BR>
will be=20<BR>
the Commerce Raider and THUDDD 13 will be skipped.&nbsp; I am still =<BR>
looking for=20<BR>
an Assistant Coordinator for THUDDD 14.<BR>
<BR>
Confused?&nbsp; So am I.&nbsp; I really shouldn't write this stuff =<BR>
after=20<BR>
starting the New Years Eve celebration (hey, at least this time, I =<BR>
didn't spell=20<BR>
it with an 's').<BR>
<BR>
Okay, here's the spec's for THUDDD 11 (the official release date for =<BR>
this is=20<BR>
1/3/00, but what the heck):<BR>
[From IN Press Release 0035-109-1009, =<BR>
Capital/Core]<BR>
&nbsp;=20&nbsp; &nbsp; Lord Jonas Mac Finny, a representative of the Imperial = Bureau of=20 Transportation (IBoT), announced an IBoT initiative to upgrade current = standards=20 for small cargo transport, specifically a new standard for what is = commonly=20 referred to as a Modular Cutter. IBoT was prompted to announce this = initiative=20 by the constant complaints concerning the massive cost of current =standard=20units.<BR>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Lord Mac Finny provided spec's for the =current=20standard units:<BR>
<TABLE align=3Dcenter border=3D1 borderColor=3Dblack cellPadding=3D0 =cellSpacing=3D0=20width=3D"80%">  <TBODY>  <TR>    <TD>      <TABLE border=3D0 cellPadding=3D0 cellSpacing=3D0 width=3D"100%">        <TBODY>        <TR>          <TD>&nbsp;=20          <TD vAlign=3Dtop><B>Modular Cutter</B><BR>
Tons 50<BR>
Crew 2=20            <BR>
Cargo 15<BR>
7 Size Rating<BR>
0 Fire Control Rating           <TD vAlign=3Dtop>Volume 700<BR>
Passengers High/Medium =12<BR>
Passengers=20            Low 0<BR>
Controls: Civilian Standard<BR>
0 Jump Rating<BR>
4 G =            Rating/Maneuver Drive<BR>
4 Power Plant Rating<BR>
13.5=20            Rating/Scoop/Refine<BR>
0A 2P 0J Sensor Rating<BR>
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&nbsp;=20            <BR>
TL 9=20            <BR>
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            <BR>
6 Structure </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>      <BR>
      <TABLE border=3D0 cellPadding=3D0 cellSpacing=3D0 width=3D"100%">        <TBODY>        <TR>          <TD>&nbsp;=20          <TD vAlign=3Dtop>            <B>Modular Cutter:</B> Using a 50-ton =hull, the=20            cutter is capable of 4G, carries 2 tons of fuel, and has a = crew of=20             two. It has 30 tons committed to special detachable modules; = the=20             craft has 2.t tons excess space available for weaponry or =ancillary=20            items.=20            Three interchangeable modules are = routinely=20             available for the modular cutter:<BR>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =The <B>ATV=20            Module</B> (which includes an operational ATV) is 30 tons. = It can=20             land and retrieve an ATV on a world surface. The module can =serve as=20            an ATV storage location, if desired.<BR>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =The=20            <B>fuel module</B>, with 30 tons of fuel tankage, serves as =a fuel=20            skimming vehicle and storage tank.<BR>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =The=20            <B>open module</B> is a customizable frame with 30 tons of =excess=20            space, which can be allocated to passenger couches, fuel, =cargo,=20            cabin, or staterooms.          <TD>&nbsp; =</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>&nbsp; &nbsp;=20 &nbsp; Indicating that the new standard should meet or exceed the = current=20 standard for less money. Preferably much less. Lord Mac Finny was quick = to=20 assure this reporter that the winning design firm would be given a = contract to=20 produce an initial run of 2 dozen Modular Cutter and would be able to = expect=20 annual contracts to produce hundreds more after the completion of =trials.<BR>
Due to concerns expressed by some, this competition will be closed to = those=20 who only design using GURPS.&nbsp; We wouldn't want any of the THUDDD = designs to=20 influence anything produced for use in an actual Traveller source book, =now=20would we?&nbsp; ;-)<BR>
All kidding aside, we wish the developers of the Modular Cutter =Source Book=20all the best in the world.<BR>
I'm looking forward to seeing those Non GURPS=20designs.<BR>
--<BR>
Jason<BR>
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Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2000 00:26:17 -0500<BR>
From: "David L. Pulver" <dlpulver@kos.net><BR>
Subject: Re: Megacorps<BR>
<BR>
>From: Kurt Feltenberger <kurt@blazenet.net><BR>
>Subject: Re: Megacorps<BR>
<BR>
>>I told him that this was such a stupid concept that if he<BR>
>>actually built an RF controlled handgun that I promised<BR>
>>him that I'd develop an RF jammer the size of the average<BR>
>>garage door opener that would be capable of jamming<BR>
>>Smart Guns for a six square block area. Imagine a bank<BR>
<BR>
>The Smart Gun is the silver bullet that the<BR>
>>anti-gun movement and the ATF is begging for. Just for<BR>
>>a moment imagine a radio controlled gun, or thousands<BR>
>>of them, that could be disabled by satellite generated<BR>
>>signal with the push of a button in Washington DC.<BR>
<BR>
Actually, this could make a cool Traveller scenario. ACRs or some such<BR>
with smart gun circuits of this nature are just the thing for a TL5- world's<BR>
sepoy army or dictator's guard ... very useful if no one on the planet has<BR>
radio jammers, and fairly<BR>
fun until some free trader gets hired by the resistance to smuggle them in.<BR>
 "Ticket: Cadre/Striker.  Platoon-sized  signals unit, TL8+. Must have<BR>
radio jamming gear..."<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
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 _____________________________________________________________________<BR>
     David L. Pulver -- Senior Staff Writer and Assistant Line Editor,<BR>
		     Guardians Of Order Incorporated<BR>
 Big Eyes, Small Mouth * Sailor Moon * Dominion Tank Police * Tenchi Muyo! RPG<BR>
             dlpulver@kos.net  http://www.guardiansorder.on.ca<BR>
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Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2000 01:08:05 -0500<BR>
From: Jeff Zeitlin <jzeitlin@cyburban.com><BR>
Subject: Re: Goverment Overkill<BR>
<BR>
On Fri, 31 Dec 1999 00:32:27 -0500 (EST), "Chris Seamans"<BR>
<semo@pil.net> wrote:<BR>
<BR>
>Personally, I'd be interested to see something about the sheer *propaganda<BR>
>value* of the Astronaut Pen. Unfortunately, there's no easy way to measure<BR>
>the effects of kids across the country opening up issues of Superboy,<BR>
>Spider-Man and The House of Mystery and seeing the Astronaut Pen proudly<BR>
>advertised, or the effects of wives across the country ordering it from<BR>
>Lillian Vernon, Inc. as stocking stuffers for their husbands.<BR>
<BR>
Don't look for "Astronaut Pen", look for the "Fischer Space Pen".<BR>
It had its day, and was a cachet item for a while<BR>
<BR>
- --<BR>
Jeff Zeitlin<BR>
jzeitlin@cyburban.com<BR>
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Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 22:00:16 -0800<BR>
From: "Jason T. Barnabas" <cybernaut@netzero.net><BR>
Subject: Re: Art and attraction<BR>
<BR>
Tom Ellis <tellis@telerama.lm.com> wrote:<BR>
> Keep in mind too that on most mid to high tech level worlds, there are<BR>
> bound to be numerous, safe ways to prevent obesity. Very, very few people<BR>
> would actually CHOOSE to be obese, or even chubby.  Maybe a beer belly<BR>
> from too many tavern crawls looking for patrons though...hmm.<BR>
<BR>
You know, when I recently ran across a picture of Capt.<BR>
Jamison, I was reminded of a social studies teacher/coach I<BR>
had in high school.  Coach Haskins was built like Capt.<BR>
Jamison appears to be.  Very heavy.  When I first met him, I<BR>
thought he was fat.  The first day of try-outs for football,<BR>
Coach Haskins challenged us to knock him over.  Like<BR>
everyone else, I tried.  Like everyone else, I discovered that<BR>
the fat was only a few cm thick.  The rest of him was bone<BR>
and muscle.  Hitting him felt like hitting a padded brick wall.<BR>
Even if he had lost the few cm of fat, he would have still<BR>
looked like a young beardless St. Nick.<BR>
- --<BR>
Jason<BR>
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Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2000 01:14:02 -0500<BR>
From: Jeff Zeitlin <jzeitlin@cyburban.com><BR>
Subject: Re: Old laws/weird legal systems<BR>
<BR>
On Fri, 31 Dec 1999 00:32:27 -0500 (EST), shadow@krypton.rain.com<BR>
(Leonard Erickson) wrote:<BR>
<BR>
>Heck, anybody got a copy of the *real* Miranda warning? Let's see what<BR>
>we can do with it!<BR>
<BR>
The exact text varies from jurisdiction to jurisdiction, but the<BR>
essence:<BR>
<BR>
You have the right to remain silent.  If you choose to waive your<BR>
right to remain silent, anything you say can and may be used<BR>
against you in a court of law.<BR>
<BR>
You have the right to have an attorney present and to consult<BR>
with an attorney when you are questioned.<BR>
<BR>
If you cannot afford an attorney, the court will appoint an<BR>
attorney to act as a legal representative and consultant during<BR>
your questioning and any subsequent legal actions against you<BR>
arising from the cause of your arrest.<BR>
<BR>
Should you choose to waive your right to the presence of and<BR>
consultation with an attorney, you may reassert this right at any<BR>
time during your questioning, and at that time, the questioning<BR>
must be suspended pending such consultation.<BR>
- --<BR>
Jeff Zeitlin<BR>
jzeitlin@cyburban.com<BR>
<BR>
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<BR>
Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2000 00:15:25 -0600<BR>
From: Black ICE <wombat@premier.net><BR>
Subject: All Those GURPS Tech Wonders<BR>
<BR>
All right.  Here in Red Stick, LA, it's 01 Jan 2000.  Now _I_ can<BR>
finally activate my cloning vat, and defend it with my laser pistol.<BR>
<BR>
 ********<BR>
*        *  Beads<BR>
 ********<BR>
<BR>
O O   O O <BR>
 O   O  O O O Doubloons<BR>
 O O O    O  O<BR>
<BR>
Happy New Year!<BR>
<BR>
- -- <BR>
AuricTech Shipyards Journeyman Gearhead<BR>
"Gold-Plated [tm] solutions for copper-plated problems!" (r)<BR>
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<BR>
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 22:12:39 -0800<BR>
From: "Jason T. Barnabas" <cybernaut@netzero.net><BR>
Subject: Re: Common Law<BR>
<BR>
Glenn Goffin <gmgoffin@yahoo.com> wrote:<BR>
> >From: "Jason T. Barnabas" <cybernaut@netzero.net><BR>
><BR>
> >I take it that Glen is an attorney at law.  One of<BR>
> >the problems that he faces is that he was trained in<BR>
> >a "modern" law school. I mean NO disrepect to Glen,<BR>
> >it is not his fault that most law schools no longer<BR>
> >cover Common Law properly.  I understand that many<BR>
> >law schools no longer even offer a constitution law<BR>
> >class.<BR>
><BR>
> You're right that I'm an attorney and went to a modern<BR>
> law school.  I'm not sure what you mean by "cover[ing]<BR>
> Common Law properly."  Law schools teach the common<BR>
> law and legal history to people who are going to be<BR>
> practicing in the present day.  More academic legal<BR>
> education can be obtained through graduate school<BR>
> programs leading to LL.M. or LL.D. degrees, or a Ph.D.<BR>
> in legal history.<BR>
><BR>
> I'm sure that every law school offers constitutional<BR>
> law, if only because that is a subject tested on the<BR>
> bar exam, both the multi-state portion and every<BR>
> individual state's portion.<BR>
<BR>
The reason I mentioned it was because someone I know is<BR>
enrolled in a local (Sacramento area) law school that does<BR>
not even offer one course on constitutional law.<BR>
<BR>
> >Believe it or not, the very topic of this thread can<BR>
> >make for some excellent (and educational) adventures<BR>
> >for your favorite PCs.<BR>
><BR>
> Agreed!<BR>
<BR>
Perhaps we should collaborate on developing some.  It<BR>
would probably be fun.<BR>
- --<BR>
Jason<BR>
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Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 19:19:02 +1300<BR>
From: "Andrew Moffatt-Vallance" <a.vallance@netaccess.co.nz><BR>
Subject: Re: Happy New Year!<BR>
<BR>
Date sent:      	Sat, 01 Jan 2000 00:14:45 -0500<BR>
From:           	"David L. Pulver" <dlpulver@kos.net><BR>
<BR>
> It looks like me and my trusty Model/1bis travelled into the first few<BR>
> minutes of 2000 okay here in Kingston, n Ontario, Canada!  Here's wishing<BR>
> everyone a happy new year and safe seasonal remnant!<BR>
<BR>
Well, it seems that most of the world survived intact. Just one question<BR>
though; what on earth are we going to do with all these penguins?<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
Andrew etc<BR>
Homepage http://users.netaccess.co.nz/amv/<BR>
Traveller http://www.downport.com/amv/<BR>
 "What do you expect from a species who's females are<BR>
 always in heat" Ko of the Ilui clan on Humans and honour<BR>
<BR>
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<BR>
Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2000 00:28:31 -0600<BR>
From: Black ICE <wombat@premier.net><BR>
Subject: Re: Happy New Year!<BR>
<BR>
Andrew Moffatt-Vallance wrote:<BR>
> <BR>
> Date sent:              Sat, 01 Jan 2000 00:14:45 -0500<BR>
> From:                   "David L. Pulver" <dlpulver@kos.net><BR>
> <BR>
> > It looks like me and my trusty Model/1bis travelled into the first few<BR>
> > minutes of 2000 okay here in Kingston, n Ontario, Canada!  Here's wishing<BR>
> > everyone a happy new year and safe seasonal remnant!<BR>
> <BR>
> Well, it seems that most of the world survived intact. Just one question<BR>
> though; what on earth are we going to do with all these penguins?<BR>
<BR>
Throw them at people, of course!  (Either that, or throw them at Vargr<BR>
and/or Aslan....)<BR>
<BR>
- -- <BR>
AuricTech Shipyards Journeyman Gearhead<BR>
"Gold-Plated [tm] solutions for copper-plated problems!" (r)<BR>
Keeper of the TML Keyboard Casualty List<BR>
<BR>
http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Shadowlands/9776<BR>
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<BR>
Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2000 00:32:11 -0600<BR>
From: Black ICE <wombat@premier.net><BR>
Subject: The Steve Jackson Games New Year Message<BR>
<BR>
Evil Stevie said it better than I ever could (note especially the last<BR>
paragraph):<BR>
<BR>
http://www.sjgames.com/ill/<BR>
<BR>
- -- <BR>
AuricTech Shipyards Journeyman Gearhead<BR>
"Gold-Plated [tm] solutions for copper-plated problems!" (r)<BR>
Keeper of the TML Keyboard Casualty List<BR>
<BR>
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<BR>
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 22:53:35 -0800<BR>
From: "Jason T. Barnabas" <cybernaut@netzero.net><BR>
Subject: Re: Happy New Year!<BR>
<BR>
<Sethkimmel@aol.com> wrote:<BR>
> Happy new year to all on the TML!!!<BR>
><BR>
>  Has anybody heard any Y2K problems yet, or can I start laughing at the<BR>
> doomsayers? :-)<BR>
<BR>
I'm on the u.S. left coast, so we haven't passed the midnight<BR>
mark just yet; however, let me remind you that if those<BR>
"doomsayers" hadn't been screaming for the fix, there would<BR>
likely have been nothing done about it.  Could you imagine<BR>
what that would have been like?<BR>
- --<BR>
Jason<BR>
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<BR>
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 22:58:12 -0800<BR>
From: "Jason T. Barnabas" <cybernaut@netzero.net><BR>
Subject: Re: Happy New Year!<BR>
<BR>
Jim & Peta Lawrie <jimpeta@primus.com.au> wrote:<BR>
> From: Chris Seamans <semo@pil.net><BR>
> >Happy -2518, and remember, while the Imperium is cool and all, the<BR>
Solomani<BR>
> >have got *the Party*!<BR>
> ><BR>
> >Some facts:<BR>
> ><BR>
> >Just 58 more years until we have bases throughout the solar system, a<BR>
mere<BR>
> >87 years until we discover Jump Drive, and in 2096, we'll finally get a<BR>
> >chance to kick some Vilani ass!<BR>
> >Happy New Year!<BR>
><BR>
>     Big improvement over last year, when the moon was blown out of orbit<BR>
and<BR>
> carried  the moon base into deep space.<BR>
<BR>
Yes, but even that was an improvement over what happened<BR>
15 years before (1984).<BR>
- --<BR>
Jason<BR>
______________________________________________<BR>
    The rules have changed...  Get paid to surf the web.<BR>
http://www.alladvantage.com/home.asp?refid=BMM-972<BR>
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<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
__________________________________________<BR>
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